The latter is what most people are already fitting in the way of oil catch cans fitted inline of the 2 breather lines. I don't know if they are 100% effective, but seeing what people are collecting in these cans, they are certainly filtering some crap out.

 

Can anyone recommend a ' drip feed ' container that would fit into the breather / air box that I could fill with a carbon reducing agent such as sea foam etc , the theory being droplets of cleaning agent could be drawn into the intake gradually so to break down any carbon present then continue to keep valves clean.

 

Personally I don't think that would be particularly effective - the duration the seafoam would be in contact with the valves would be minute, it is normal to leave seafoam "bubbling away" to get into the affected areas.

Also don't know what the red hot atmosphere in there would do to the seafoam

As usual I have probably missed the most important point - so will wait for others to comment

 

Thanks' MinIan maybe BG44K might make a better job being a fuel additive :blush:have been looking at the mini inline air tool oilers as a possible candidate for holding the cleaning fluid these usually deliver their contents under air pressure but can't see any reason why they wouldn't drip feed fluid under vacuum,just wonder how much vacuum is created in the system don't want all the fluid going in one gulp :scared:
I'm away from the car at the moment but I noticed from photos what looks like a small diameter breather hose coming from the air intake hose ? Can anyone confirm if this hose would be suitable to accommodate the mini oiler filled with BG44K or similar ? Not having the car at the moment I don't know if this hose directs into the turbo or the other direction.

 

I dont know what sort of quantities you're considering here but its likely to affect the fueling .
Have you thought about meth if you're not sure about the occs?
My cans are working very well btw probably not sure100% but the post-can lines are bone dry!!

 

Hi MinIan, do you mean add meths,meths/water mixture instead of fuel additive ?

 

Who supplies the best catch can out there?

 

me :thumbup:
saikou michi

 

Have you seen the Saikou OCC set up for sale on ebay? £189....

 

They're Sham's bud ▼▼▼▼

me :thumbup:
saikou michi

 

given that the carbon build up appears to be directly related to the engine oil vapours, has anyone considered contacting any oil suppliers or producers to see what they recommend to reduce carbon build up in a direct injection engines. I would not be surprised if people found castrol edge turbo diesel turned out to give some improvements, after all it is specifically designed to work with direct injection engine, all be it diesel ones.

 

I use oil specifically for tdci engines ok i did buy it in error, but reading how it can reduce carbon build up due to detergents it contains, my only concern is the protection at high revs but in theory it should work no different to other oils

 

Just a plug, but have a product in development. That requires no cans and will stabilise oil pressure and prevent ingestion whist increasing combustion efficiency. It's self fit and forget and cheaper too.

A r56 fix

 

Excellent ... When will it be available?

 

I have two weeks of testing left on various spec r56 cars to validate this between race weekends. Then it's upto Emma on the rest. Very soon.

The R56 engine is good, just has one problem that causes the other five..

 

Excellent

 

couple questions
if it was a simple software update. im sure mini would be bringing an update to the table aswel
secondly, as themis has found out. when he rebuilt his engine, the tolerances in the piston chamber were tightened up. his findings last week>

Update:
Oil consumption:
I am delighted to report that the oil usage is very low, even running it with 250bhp continuously and pushing it hard everyday. It consumed 50ml/1000miles and the occ was nearly empty. The pipes venting to atmo are both bone dry! Success...

the r56 suffers quite a bit in factory oil consumption, mini even admit that and it has been well documented on this forum. the blow by or crank case pressure gases causes these issues. themis reported good signs after he rebuilt his engine. this definitely points that the problem is more mechanical than software related as suggetsed on this thread.

 

Firstly, is not just software. Secondly what does software control..?

This is not a ecu flash. It could be done though.

Bottom line is that there is poor finish from motor to motor agreed as i Have now seen a lot of these engines in postmortem condition even the casting flash is left on the block and head! Regardless of blow by there is a problem that can be mitigated very simply. Oil in a catch tank is not oil in the engine lubrication circuit.

 

I agree with both of you. They do use a lot of oil, mine did due to high cylinder tolerances, but after the rebuilt it's not.
It is certainly mainly a mechanical aspect but Lee's fix would be very interesting I reckon...not to mention that not everybody can rebuild their engines to improve oil consumption...so we should show some respect to Lee's commitment for development.
I can also confirm that casting flash is terrible on this engine and we had to trim the block, removing any unnecessary rough corners, working a whole day to do so!

Btw, Lee did you get my pm?

 

Got it..

 

I hate waiting!

 

Update

Have now decided on the kit i'll use to drip feed fuel system/induction cleaner into the inlet , the unit will work off the inlet vacuum so will not release fluid when the engine is not running , when under vacuum the unit will release a regulated amount of cleaner into the induction system probably post air filter.
What would your recommendations be as to where to intercept for vacuum also the best position for the cleaning fluid to be fed . :wink:

 

Have now decided on the kit i'll use to drip feed fuel system/induction cleaner into the inlet , the unit will work off the inlet vacuum so will not release fluid when the engine is not running , when under vacuum the unit will release a regulated amount of cleaner into the induction system probably post air filter.
What would your recommendations be as to where to intercept for vacuum also the best position for the cleaning fluid to be fed . :wink:

Is this a modded LPG lube system?

 

Interesting and expensive fail.

Why not just fix the problem.?

 

Not expensive ZzzzzZ , I don't even know if allowing droplets of intake/fuel system cleaner to be drawn into the inlet will help with the carbon issue it just makes me feel better
I wont start my install until you have your fix sorted , interesting to see what you come up with :thumbup1:
Until then ZzzzzZ do you have recommendation as where best to intercept the intake system ( require a small diameter pipe for vacuum if available ) plus the best position to site a small diameter threaded spigot to introduce the cleaning fluid. :wink:

 

How can you fix the problem?

 

With some research and development. I have a solution, a few weeks from release I hope.