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Black Intercooler?

6K views 12 replies 9 participants last post by  ridindirty  
#1 ·
R53
I have watched many YouTube videos and researched a lot, and the consensus is that a black painted or powder coated intercooler are NOT as efficient as a raw aluminium one. Here is the situation though. I found a great deal on a black Airtec intercooler, no option for silver. So the reviews of this intercooler boast some pretty impressive hp gains. I am assuming the dyno tests were done with the silver one, but they show about 25hp gain. Orranje was supposed to indipendaly verify this but the link is dead in mini torque. But here is the question, how much "worse" do you think the black would be over the raw aluminium? You think like 2-5hp difference? I can deal with that, but 5-10hp difference is another story. For reference on the science watch Mighty Car Mods black intercooler YouTube video, then watch Engineering Explained where he throughly rebuttes MCM. So should I not worry about the difference? Just be blissfully ignorant? How much hp difference? Anyone done test with raw aluminium vs black with dyno?
Thanks D
 
#6 ·
Think this has been done already, black will be better at *radiating* heat while no air is flowing over the outside. If you must then anodizing is the most efficient form of colour change for radiating heat in still air. It will also absorb more heat if exposed to direct sun.

An intercooler (or radiator) however work mostly on *convection* with forced airflow, so coating and colour has negligable effect, and paint or powder will reduce efficiency.


As far as Airtec and hp gains, don't believe advertising, its bs.
 
#7 ·
I didn't think I/C's 'made' power like that, don't they just allow other things to, through efficiency?
 
#9 ·
Well, there was actually a bit of a question in there :) but, I was implying, that by helping keep temps as low as the oe part did, for a standard car for instance, the modified ones are similarly fitted to facilitate parts that pump more air, to generate the power intended. Those same items that pump more air, are not fitted to facilitate an intercooler itself produce the power intended are they.

Numbers claimed by intercooler fitment, or vendors of intercoolers to be specific, vary so much. I don't see evidence of low air intake temps for many of them, just certain product info, and just because they say so it seems.

Are there some with really distinct advantages over others, genuinely? If these as the op says help make what they say, before one spends daft money, it would be nice if there is proper real world testing evidence.

I'm so used to reading plenty of people slating intercoolers in general, from various sources, not just here either, usually competitors or employees/followers of them, customers out of loyalty etc. Even for other products or services, builds, kits. I wonder how often it just serves to make people avoid those that slate others? Maybe it's why the GP cooler is popular.

All that potential customers want is factual information supported by evidence, important in a tuning market, and then unbiased advice. If those vendors or back seat critics haven't tested it properly, and posted evidence of how good or bad a part is in conjunction with other listed mods or not, even better when corroborated by others , then any negative or critical, cynical comments have no value or credibility at all. Sorry, but it's just tiring and time wasting reading all the utter bullshit instead of what forums are best at, help & advice.

I know a rolling road might show temp rises, or a couple of two minute blasts, but it needs to be proper continual road use, or track. Even if it were a full group test day or days, with a number of cars, and vendors all willing to donate time and coolers. In that instance it wouldn't have to be about the outright power, just trials for ability to obtain and maintain the lowest intake air temps. Then post it on all the forums, as ideally it should be a collaboration of efforts. All using a common logging device of course, so for me I would vote BytetroniK the most appropriate because of the collective information simultaneously logged. And Oulton Park as a test centre.

Perfect way to see, if black or silver, thermal coated or painted, and all the random makes including the always slated ebay stuff. Just intercoolers, nothing else tested. Pure IAT's :eek:)