Sorry I cant add to this yet, have the same double catch can to fit at some point, just need to buy all the stuff to fit it. Worth taking a load of pics as you fit it.
Saikou Michi OCC hose fittings
Hi guys, I came across this forum thanks to MinIan's project car thread, when searching for the best plan of action once I get my walnut decoke done in the next month or so. I am ordering the Saikou Michi dual can - looks like a great set up.
I have a couple of questions about hose fitments before I bite the bullet and start ordering parts in preparation. I also want to make sure I have everything I could ever need when I start the job, as I don't have a garage or a second car - so if I hit a dead end, it could be pretty inconvenient for me! My plan is to basically copy MinIan's approach found here: http://www.minitorque.com/forum/f272/project-chilli-red-sloth-27889/index8.html - to use as many of the MINI connections as possible, but splicing in hoses to the OCC - if I cut a hose then find I need to get to the shops to pick up more parts, I'm screwed. So going on the basis of 19mm hoses coming and going from the cans:
Inlet manifold PCV:
I plan to leave the hose connected down at the manifold end, and cut it the same as MinIan did up at the airbox. However I note that he said this was the hardest part of the job as the 19mm hose was difficult to fit over the PCV hose tube at the rigid section. Am I right in thinking that only the top part of the hose is plastic tubing? Could I cut further down where the hose is just soft silicone and slide a coupler in? If this is the case, what size is this flexible part of the PCV hose (would a straight 19-19mm coupler do the trick)?
Also, will the other 19mm hose easily go over the PCV port on the valve cover, or is there a case to use the leftover PCV hose piece and salvage the MINI safety clip connection?
Turbo Inlet PCV:
I like the default connections here. So I'd like to butcher this hose aswell, leaving the connections in place but adding my own hoses in to reroute through the can. It is my understanding (although I don't have verniers to check myself) that this hose is 22mm I/D. So could I use 2 of these: Toolstation > Plumbing > Solder Ring > S/R Imperial Coupler to join the 19mm hoses to the existing hoses in a similar fashion to MinIan's shower rail and copper sleeve? I like this style as it has the bumps to allow a good secure fitting for the jubilee clip. Any problems using copper in these lines?
I'd really appreciate it if anyone can help me out with these specifics. I have never done this kind of work on a car before so it makes me kind of nervous, but it all looks simple enough. My biggest fear like I said is being unprepared - I don't have a spare parts bin or extensive tools that will come in handy to bodge a solution if I get something wrong - I need to get it right first time.
Thanks,
Dave
I have a couple of questions about hose fitments before I bite the bullet and start ordering parts in preparation. I also want to make sure I have everything I could ever need when I start the job, as I don't have a garage or a second car - so if I hit a dead end, it could be pretty inconvenient for me! My plan is to basically copy MinIan's approach found here: http://www.minitorque.com/forum/f272/project-chilli-red-sloth-27889/index8.html - to use as many of the MINI connections as possible, but splicing in hoses to the OCC - if I cut a hose then find I need to get to the shops to pick up more parts, I'm screwed. So going on the basis of 19mm hoses coming and going from the cans:
Inlet manifold PCV:
I plan to leave the hose connected down at the manifold end, and cut it the same as MinIan did up at the airbox. However I note that he said this was the hardest part of the job as the 19mm hose was difficult to fit over the PCV hose tube at the rigid section. Am I right in thinking that only the top part of the hose is plastic tubing? Could I cut further down where the hose is just soft silicone and slide a coupler in? If this is the case, what size is this flexible part of the PCV hose (would a straight 19-19mm coupler do the trick)?
Also, will the other 19mm hose easily go over the PCV port on the valve cover, or is there a case to use the leftover PCV hose piece and salvage the MINI safety clip connection?
Turbo Inlet PCV:
I like the default connections here. So I'd like to butcher this hose aswell, leaving the connections in place but adding my own hoses in to reroute through the can. It is my understanding (although I don't have verniers to check myself) that this hose is 22mm I/D. So could I use 2 of these: Toolstation > Plumbing > Solder Ring > S/R Imperial Coupler to join the 19mm hoses to the existing hoses in a similar fashion to MinIan's shower rail and copper sleeve? I like this style as it has the bumps to allow a good secure fitting for the jubilee clip. Any problems using copper in these lines?
I'd really appreciate it if anyone can help me out with these specifics. I have never done this kind of work on a car before so it makes me kind of nervous, but it all looks simple enough. My biggest fear like I said is being unprepared - I don't have a spare parts bin or extensive tools that will come in handy to bodge a solution if I get something wrong - I need to get it right first time.
Thanks,
Dave
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i need to purchase the catch cans but waiting for them to reply at present.....
im sure someone will be along soon to give you some good advice
im sure someone will be along soon to give you some good advice
Cheers so far. I got a price estimate from them last night of about £125 delivered to Scotland. I think some have received them cheaper in the past but I still think it's pretty reasonable when you look at the BSH can - a very nice can with nice considerations going to the billet plugs etc - but would I need 2 off. I also quite like and respect the up-front human approach of actually communicating with the guys direct - even if it does mean a bit of waiting about at the enquiry stage.
can you send me a link for the bsh can please.... im still waiting for a reply from sm, in need of some cans asap. cheers
BSH Mini Cooper R56 Competition Catch Can - BSH Speedshop - you may find them cheaper elsewhere.
I've struggled to find a UK supplier of the can though so expect to pay another $45 - $60 shipping (I think they use FedEx). Obviously this will only cover one PCV route so when you double it, if you intend to use two, the SM does seem like a bargain.
I emailed SM yesterday about 10AM (UK) and had a reply this morning at 2AM with the price and CAD drawing. They were talking about a 3 week lead time as they are produced to order. I gave them the specifics I am after today along with my address, so I expect them to confirm a price and point me to their paypal over the weekend and then we're off.
ETA - Its worth noting, Spud, that the BSH can comes set up to be used on the turbo inlet hose with the rear PCV to inlet manifold blocked off, and so the special-made connectors that come with it (possibly a decent portion of the overall cost) can probably only be used on that side. I think you'd still need to improvise the connections the same as I am suggesting if you plan on fitting a second one on that outlet.
I've struggled to find a UK supplier of the can though so expect to pay another $45 - $60 shipping (I think they use FedEx). Obviously this will only cover one PCV route so when you double it, if you intend to use two, the SM does seem like a bargain.
I emailed SM yesterday about 10AM (UK) and had a reply this morning at 2AM with the price and CAD drawing. They were talking about a 3 week lead time as they are produced to order. I gave them the specifics I am after today along with my address, so I expect them to confirm a price and point me to their paypal over the weekend and then we're off.
ETA - Its worth noting, Spud, that the BSH can comes set up to be used on the turbo inlet hose with the rear PCV to inlet manifold blocked off, and so the special-made connectors that come with it (possibly a decent portion of the overall cost) can probably only be used on that side. I think you'd still need to improvise the connections the same as I am suggesting if you plan on fitting a second one on that outlet.
i have a 2 week lead time and have 10 coming through. yes, they have increased the price since last years group buy.
i will make a complete package so no faffing about. 4 are already gone so if anyone is interested, pm and will arrange nearer to the date.
i will make a complete package so no faffing about. 4 are already gone so if anyone is interested, pm and will arrange nearer to the date.
When you say complete package, does that include all the hoses etc?i have a 2 week lead time and have 10 coming through. yes, they have increased the price since last years group buy.
i will make a complete package so no faffing about. 4 are already gone so if anyone is interested, pm and will arrange nearer to the date.
If your "complete package" includes all hoses and fixings I'm interested subject to the cost obviously. PM me if you need to.
Same as above
as above but will pm you now.......
wrathalanche... think ill give the bsh one a miss then lol. cheers
wrathalanche... think ill give the bsh one a miss then lol. cheers
PMedi have a 2 week lead time and have 10 coming through. yes, they have increased the price since last years group buy.
i will make a complete package so no faffing about. 4 are already gone so if anyone is interested, pm and will arrange nearer to the date.
I have 2 BSH catch cans to fit when I get chance but may sell them if someone is of more urgent need.
Think despite my head off goodwill decoke not long ago my carbon build up has returned if only going by oil consumption as an example.
Think despite my head off goodwill decoke not long ago my carbon build up has returned if only going by oil consumption as an example.
I already have the cans but would be interested in the rest of the kit. Is this something you could offer?
Hope this helpsHi guys, I came across this forum thanks to MinIan's project car thread, when searching for the best plan of action once I get my walnut decoke done in the next month or so. I am ordering the Saikou Michi dual can - looks like a great set up.
I have a couple of questions about hose fitments before I bite the bullet and start ordering parts in preparation. I also want to make sure I have everything I could ever need when I start the job, as I don't have a garage or a second car - so if I hit a dead end, it could be pretty inconvenient for me! My plan is to basically copy MinIan's approach found here: http://www.minitorque.com/forum/f272/project-chilli-red-sloth-27889/index8.html - to use as many of the MINI connections as possible, but splicing in hoses to the OCC - if I cut a hose then find I need to get to the shops to pick up more parts, I'm screwed. So going on the basis of 19mm hoses coming and going from the cans:
Inlet manifold PCV:
I plan to leave the hose connected down at the manifold end, and cut it the same as MinIan did up at the airbox. However I note that he said this was the hardest part of the job as the 19mm hose was difficult to fit over the PCV hose tube at the rigid section. Am I right in thinking that only the top part of the hose is plastic tubing? Could I cut further down where the hose is just soft silicone and slide a coupler in? If this is the case, what size is this flexible part of the PCV hose (would a straight 19-19mm coupler do the trick)?
Also, will the other 19mm hose easily go over the PCV port on the valve cover, or is there a case to use the leftover PCV hose piece and salvage the MINI safety clip connection?
I think the hose is ribbed so won't be any easier if you cut it further away. My main problem was that the hose I bought was perhaps too good (if there is such a thing) as the large wall thickness made it very hard to push it over the plastic fittings. If you went for a more "rubbery" hose it would be fine.
If you are going for sham1974's kit I think he will be going for a thinner walled tube - correct me if I'm wrong Shams
Turbo Inlet PCV:
I like the default connections here. So I'd like to butcher this hose aswell, leaving the connections in place but adding my own hoses in to reroute through the can. It is my understanding (although I don't have verniers to check myself) that this hose is 22mm I/D. So could I use 2 of these: Toolstation > Plumbing > Solder Ring > S/R Imperial Coupler to join the 19mm hoses to the existing hoses in a similar fashion to MinIan's shower rail and copper sleeve? I like this style as it has the bumps to allow a good secure fitting for the jubilee clip. Any problems using copper in these lines?
That fitting looks like it will work. You could also try AP motor store, who have a large range of fittings and hoses
FYI the sleeved arrangement I used isn't working very well as the aluminium tube doesn't have the ridges you mentioned and the hose keeps slipping off the oily sleeve - let me know how you get on and I will copy you ha
I'd really appreciate it if anyone can help me out with these specifics. I have never done this kind of work on a car before so it makes me kind of nervous, but it all looks simple enough. My biggest fear like I said is being unprepared - I don't have a spare parts bin or extensive tools that will come in handy to bodge a solution if I get something wrong - I need to get it right first time.
You don't need extensive tools, I started with literally NO fittings and only a few jubilee clips. BTW the black Mikalor clips are very inconspicuous when fitted
Thanks,
Dave
Thanks MinIan, that's really helpful. I was in work when I posted earlier on but I'm now home and took a look at the hose and indeed you are right, the rear hose seems rigid and ribbed as far back as I could feel without removing anything out the bay. Just one last point unaddressed there: how is your hose connected to the pcv port at the back of the crankcase? From your photos it kind of looks like you managed to fit your rubber hose over the port and clamp it, or did you attach the clip plug into your hose and just reuse that connection?
ETA - looks great MiniBB. Same question to you: what do you have going at the back port? It almost looks like you have a reducing hose adapter there - any idea the sizes and how good the fit is?
ETA - looks great MiniBB. Same question to you: what do you have going at the back port? It almost looks like you have a reducing hose adapter there - any idea the sizes and how good the fit is?
yes. it will include all hoses, connectors and clips needed to tidy the hoses. i have taken the names of all private messages and there is now interst in all 10.
to the other person who wanted the hose and fittings set. i will let you know nearer to the time and can provide you with this once i have checked all fittings.
price is subject to hitting or missings customs.
will know closer to date.
to the other person who wanted the hose and fittings set. i will let you know nearer to the time and can provide you with this once i have checked all fittings.
price is subject to hitting or missings customs.
will know closer to date.
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