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It would be appreciated if you could post your project on here and not just a link to another forum. Its a lot nicer to read through a well constructed thread and be able to reply on this site as I do not use either of those sites.
 

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Welcome here, I read about your project before, some awesome stuff!
 

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If your just going to post bitchy comments Nigel we will remove them as we are all tired of nonconstructive posting on here. All we asked him to do was post a proper thread, we have not removed his links or deleted his posts we would just rather people were part of our site than using it as a pin board.
 

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Be serious, don't get an NS1.. get a proper cam, ns1 is junk. The standard Newman cam for the r50 is cheap and performs far better than the ns1. (actually all of the cams i have used perform better than the ns1).
If you need a rally cam, just get the Piper one, it performs really well at midrange where you need a rally car to actually perform.
 

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Thanks Nick. Since looking into cams I read exactly what you posted. So I just need a mild cam as I'm not allowed to make many modifications. Do you have some part numbers for the Newmans and Piper?

Just quick history of my rallying: I’ve been building my own rally cars since 1987 which have been a MK2 Escort, MG Maestro?? Subaru Legacy , Suzuki Swift GTI and now a Mini Cooper! I’ve rallied in England(home is Nottingham) Dubai, Jordan,Lebanon,Abu Dhabi, California USA and now Costa Rica. Based in Boston USA I commute to Costa Rica 3 weeks out of every 5 so I started to rally down there in the Suzuki Swift GTI. Once I saw the Prodrive Mini I had to have something similar. So this year my Costa Rican co-driver bought a Mini on Ebay in the US and I’m preparing the car to run in the 2013 Costa Rica rally championship.

Not only do I totally build the cars but I drive them to work, to the events and do my own service. I market my team and have many sponsors to help with the expenses. I shipped the Mini from Miami to Costa Rica and plan to have the Mini ready for the 2013 rally season running in the N2 class. We have ran the Suzuki (N1) in the N2 class finishing in the top 3 so we are confident we can win N2 next year!

As a bonus I have written to David Richards at Prodrive who has shown some interest in my project sending me some T shirts and Mini decals.
 

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The part no. for the Piper is MINBP270, for the Newman it is BMWI264/396PH1. The newman is a bit empty low down, the Piper is very good up to 5700rpm. Also the Kent MINI01 is very good, with a range up to 6-6300rpm.
 

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Thanks Nick, I'll take a look at those cams after Crimbo unless the end of the world happens! I'm going to use a 5:1 final drive in the Midlands box(shock horror) so I'd like the power up to around 6500+ well what little power there is with the R50! Also as mentioned in the links I'm using Subaru STI front struts and a Hatch back WRX roof spoiler. I do have a WRX 4 core radiator but I'm told they might not allow that in the rules. Rear suspension is R56 trailing arms and Helix laterals. Rear Struts I'm thinking about.

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Chris
 

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If you want 5-7k rev range get the Newman.. the 5:1 is still very "long" for rally use, 5.5:1 at least i'd say, with a 5:1 your fifth gear will be useless.
 

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I calculate using 185/65 15" tyres with a 5:1 final drive gives me 113mph in 5th at 7000rpm which is plenty fast enough for the Costa Rica stages. I've not seen a 5:5:1 for the Midlands or any Mini box.

This is a good online toll to get the speeds http://www.zealautowerks.com/transcalc.php



I run a 4:3 in the Swift and never use 4th but a 7000rpm in 3rd the engine sound is amazing!
 

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Nice to see another Rally Project. I was out with the better half as service crew the other week and was chatting to a guy running an ex cooper ( one of the origonal cars) challenge car as a race car in very straight from the race circuit trim. Apart from the Harper cars it is the only clubman level car I have seen.

So, good to see another build - I cheated having bought an ex challenge car as well but it is more cost effective initially as we'll as saving time I'd don't have.
 

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Finding a race R50 mini in the US or any country would be like looking for rocking horse droppings! Because of class rules I have to run the NA engine. I prefer NA engines as they are more reliable in hot countries. I'm currently working on the gearbox build to have it ready to put in this weekend. How's your build coming along?
 

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I got the cage painted!


engine bay


Here's the nearly finished dash.
and the Mini in the customs jail along with all the cars no one cleared!


Amazing I did the clutch alignment by eye sight with the box fitting on perfect! Now time to relax until I get the Mini back in Mid January
 

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I'm going to be back in Costa Rica this weekend with the hope I'll have the Mini back from customs next week to started with the brake/fuel lines and R56 trailing arm installation.
 
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