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Hi all,

Just got my R56 back from the MOT tester yesterday, it's passed for another year but it's come up with:

Oil leak, but not excessive [8.4.1 (a)(i)]

The previous year it had:

Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
  • Oil leak, but not excessive requires attention (8.4.1 (a) (i))
  • Fluid leak, but not excessive air con (8.4.1 (a) (i))
I took it to a specialist and they removed the oil filter housing and cooler and replaced the seals between them. Also replaced the Air con condensor so that advisory has gone completely :)

Apparently there was quite a bit of oil under the block last year. This time the tester send the leak is much less. Covered less than 2,500 miles since it was repaired and the last MOT.

This time the oil seems visible at the top end of the rocker cover (library picture below), looks like pretty light misting, I've cleaned it up and will monitor over the next week or so.

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Is it worth changing the PCV cover and gasket with something like this: Valve Cover PCV Valve Membrane Repair Kit Compatible with Gen2 MINI Cooper S 2011-2016 R55 R56 R57 R58 R59 R60 R61 1.6L N18 Engine : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive

I seem to have read that the BMW Mini way is to replace the whole cover!

I was actually due to sell the car imminently, so I don't really want to spend £££ as the other feedback is they all leak to an extent? If it's a quick fix and something like the repair kit above is okay I'm happy to do so, but I don't really have the time to be taking it back & forth to a specialist right now, especially when I'm due to sell.

Oil level is checked regularly and it looks fine at the moment!
 

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Whilst I get your point, the thing with the MOT history is that it's publicly available for all to see and it now forms a permanent record. So there is nothing unscrupulous about not rectifying advisories.

Having looked at many vehicles previously it's scary to see how 'unloved' some cars are.
 

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Only if the buyer doesn't do their own due diligence, and why wouldn't you when it is so easy these days.

The old phrase "sold as seen & tested" still applies, sorry, I get your point, but don't see a problem.
 

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It's not unscrupulous until you buy such a car.
Wow, thats still such a weird thing to say - I'm not hiding anything about the history of the vehicle and I'm not trader. As E-R53 stated it's up to buyers to also do due diligence, with any used car purchase it's always a case of buyer beware - you can't expect everything to be without fault.

Anyway, our other cars are all still under manufacturers warranty. I've had lots of helpful advice from members on here in the past, so I was really looking for more insight in terms of where the N18's leak from, as this is the first time in ages that I've been running an older car.

If the car in your profile picture is yours, I'm sure you've looked after it impeccably too. It seems to have had an oil leak and more for the past three years.

So the fact the one in your picture appears to have had exactly a similar MOT advisory as mine for over 3 years is actually a little re-assuring - seemingly confirming that old Minis can & do leak!
 

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Yes. My car has had oil leaks but they are now fixed. It is also not for sale. Yes, you can see MOT history, but not all faults would be picked up that way.

My point is that people who sell a car with a known problem would not be happy if they bought a car with a problem.

Yes, I know it is the buyers job to inspect before buying.
 

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My point is that people who sell a car with a known problem would not be happy if they bought a car with a problem.
You see I am fundamentally in total disagreement with you on that for 2 reasons.

1. If that is all that is wrong with a car after a detailed inspection like an MOT, I would find that encouraging.

2. I would rather be able to find/read about a fault with a car to go in both feet first to kick the price down the road a bit.
 

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I always check MOT histories online and step away if it has a list or certain items
Also, advisories may or may not have been fixed, so you’ll never know until you see the car itself.

If it advises an oil leak for 2 or 3 MOTs then I’d look at the car, check if it’s leaking still and make a decision based on that. I don’t see an issue with that from the seller or buyer side of things. As a buyer that’s your choice to look up the history and check the car. As a seller you don’t have to fix an oil leak, it’s not unreasonable to leave it if you’re open about it

If however, the engine has a knock when cold, which you don’t see on the MOT and you get to see the car and it’s been run for an hour to warm up, then we’re into unscrupulous action by the seller.
 

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My point is that people who sell a car with a known problem would not be happy if they bought a car with a problem.

Yes, I know it is the buyers job to inspect before buying.
Look, I kind of get where you're coming from - however, it it was an intermittent fault, and something that's not recorded anywhere, like an intermittent electrical issue then yes, selling a vehicle without disclosing the fault isn't the right thing to do. Sadly people (& traders) often do.

However, I think we'll have to agree to disagree. The fact is, used cars often have issues. The question I was asking on this thread was about oil leaks generally, and whether the gasket repair kits where any good. As I've stated previously, as this is an advisory on the MOT, it's there for everyone to see - it's not being hidden.

You also said an MOT doesn't cover everything. Many of us on this site are enthusiasts and know lots about our vehicles. Some owners won't even know if something is a fault or not either, like say a car with folding mirrors where the mirrors don't fold anymore as an example (if they chose never to fold their mirrors).

Thankfully it's so easy to check things out these days, especially with the online MOT check. The MOT history is there for all to see - I'm certainly not hiding a known problem if I decide not to rectify the oil leak advisory when I decide to sell it.

For the record, I had a faulty coil pack on my Mini last year, I decided to change all four as in my mind there's no knowing when the others may go. Other people had advised me to just change the faulty one. Same things with bulbs, I had one Xenon bulb fail, I chose to change both of them. I've got a full comprehensive history and stacks of receipts for all the work, including bulbs & wiper blades etc.

When I was buying this particular Mini I discounted viewing a number of them on the basis of their previous MOT history / long list of advisories.

So to summarise, whilst it may come up for sale with a known fault, it's certainly not being hidden!

If I bought a used car with a fault of course I'd be disappointed, but there aren't any guarantees (especially buying privately). If someone doesn't want the risk of any faults and the peace of mind of no issues, the only real option is to buy a new car with a warranty!
 

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It amazes me how fairness is viewed differently when buying or selling a car.

Too many people buy cars without checking basic details on the assumption they have rights of redress afterwards (non warranty, but legal).

Its always up to the buyer to do the right checks, before and whist checking a vehicle, and ask the pertinent questions, which if answered dishonestly can lead to the buyer having the right to return the car (even with a private sale).

I don’t expect a secondhand car to be perfect, but I do expect it to be presented correctly. Not saying you’re not doing that either before you say anything.

A good youtube channel to follow is chops garage.

BTW, I’d not say new cars are trouble free and it’s not always easy to get dealer to fix faults either, car can simply be a pain.

My tip…do you homework an a car your interested in before looking at any example, then when you look at a car you’ll know what to look for and what to ask. If you don’t, then you only have yourself to blame.

Ill be frank selling a faulty car to a dealer or person is simply not on, don’t be surprised to get a knock on your door…remember some people are not the talking type!
 

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By way of an update, we cleaned up the excess oil that I mentioned I had observed round the rocker cover. We then replaced just PCV Valve cover and membrane using the part I linked to above. A few US N18 owners had done similar and their posts on another forum gave me the confidence to try it. The old membrane did look worse for wear, and it tore when it was removed.

Done about 75 miles since the repair with the new membrane & cover - so far all seems to be okay and no evidence of a leak / misting yet but will continue to monitor it.
 
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