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Noob with a R56 JCW 'S'

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Hello there,

I have just recently purchased my first Mini. Just so happens to be this beaut..
(Pics are off an iPhone so sorry for crappy quality)









Cleaned it and QuikWaxed it



One from when it snowed



It has the heated leather Recaro front seats :D



These wheels will be going on it for a while as i need three tyres on the Works alloys. But depending on how it handles and if MPG goes up, or at least stops going down, i will think about some 17" R112 Alloys.





When i bought it, the owner told me it had 225bhp. No dyno printouts or proof buts it f**king fast. :thumbup:
Thinking of getting either a Miltek decat or Sports cat, i know with a decat it wont pass mot but will it with a sports cat? It already sounds evil i just want it a bit louder :)

Soo thanks for taking the time to read/browse, any comments and feedback welcome :)
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What mods does it have for 225bhp? Its a dealer fit JCW rather than factory so 192bhp stock.
Welcome to MT!

I hope that wasn't a butt dyno readout from the guy! Get a health check and a dyno run to see exactly what the score is before you start modifying :thumbup1:

Looks a very nice starting point though. I'd check out your suspension options before sorting the wheels! And even then, don't waste a lot of money on heavy JCW hoops with crap offsets, there are plenty of aftermarket options out there :wink:

Its a dealer fit JCW rather than factory so 192bhp stock.
How do you tell? Lack of JCW brakes and (by the looks of it) JCW suspension?
Welcome to MT!

I hope that wasn't a butt dyno readout from the guy! Get a health check and a dyno run to see exactly what the score is before you start modifying :thumbup1:

Looks a very nice starting point though. I'd check out your suspension options before sorting the wheels! And even then, don't waste a lot of money on heavy JCW hoops with crap offsets, there are plenty of aftermarket options out there :wink:



How do you tell? Lack of JCW brakes and (by the looks of it) JCW suspension?
doesnt have jcw Brakes and it has the stage 1 exhaust with the jcw logo
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Yep the exhaust is the jcw logo which makes it dealer fit, factory jcw doesn't have the logo. Also no jcw brakes, and it has a cooper s badge aswell as the jcw badge. Factory works only have a works badge.
Works badge on the right only at the back is usually factory works. Cooper S badge on right plus Works badge on the left equals dealer fit works pack.
Works badge on the right only at the back is usually factory works. Cooper S badge on right plus Works badge on the left equals dealer fit works pack.
Is that the same for Gen 1 too?
Right then, thanks for the replies.

It is a dealer fit jcw rather than the factory. Like i said in my first post, i have NO proof of the power and i WILL be getting it dyno'd soon.
It was a female owner before me so if there is any mods, she won't have known about them. Haven't looked for any really, but theres nothing modified under the bonnet..Yet.
As for the exhaust (seems to have sparked a debate) surely you can't tell exactly what it is just on the logo on the tip. It is very loud and throaty, pops and burbles all the time in every gear.

As for the suspension and brakes, as its a dealer fit surely (whoever got the kit fitted) decided not to get the brakes. But my friends mum has an ex-demo works (just the aero kit, wheels and badges) and mine's definately lower. Plus after spending top end of £3000 on the front seats, i guess that was enough or that was their limits. I am looking into getting the 'Works' brakes, but depending on how much they're going for i might just paint the standards red.

Thinking of just keeping the black wolfrace wheels on it for the time being. Looks good in my opinion, more stealthy. And yeah like minionesam said the standard hoops are really heavy, well they are compared to these wolfrace alloys. And the car seems to pick up and set off a hell of a lot better on these wheels, not sure if its just because its got some decent tread on it or if putting smaller wheels on has actually helped.

Back to a question i asked in my first post, sports cat or de-cat? Would i be better off spending the extra on a sports cat? And does anyone know if it will pass an MOT with a sports cat?

Thanks again for the replies and taking the time to read :)
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As for the exhaust (seems to have sparked a debate) surely you can't tell exactly what it is just on the logo on the tip. It is very loud and throaty, pops and burbles all the time in every gear.

As for the suspension and brakes, as its a dealer fit surely (whoever got the kit fitted) decided not to get the brakes.

Back to a question i asked in my first post, sports cat or de-cat? Would i be better off spending the extra on a sports cat? And does anyone know if it will pass an MOT with a sports cat?
Yep you can tell from just a logo, see here: http://www.minitorque.com/forum/f18/2nd-gen-jcw-guide-32506/

As for sports cat over decat, decat wont pass MOT, sports CAT should. It up to, if you want to swap the decat for every MOT or if you know a friendly MOT place go decat ;) If not get the sports CAT for fit and forget.
Ahh right fair enough then, learn something new everyday. Thanks.

Yeah i guessed as much, but which would be better for power gains?

Rang 1320 up before and had a chat about possibly getting a re-map. They havent got anything for a r56 yet but he told me best thing would be to get it dyno'd and find out what shes running at the moment before i start modding. So I have just got it booked in for a power run on a dyno on the 7th of march so will know for sure what its got then.

Had a look on the Evolve site and cant find anything for a Cooper S with a JCW kit, just the standard Cooper S and the FJCW. They do something which they send to you and you can plug it in and do it yourself.. Anyone used these before? Tbh i'd rather see my car on a dyno getting it done by a proffesional.

I've done a little bit of research on mapping and it seems i've got two (SAFE) options, which are both right down South, Evolve and 1320. I live in Cumbria, is there anyone a bit more local that specialise in Mini's?
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Right, quick update.

Had it on the dyno the other day..
First run - 196.8bhp 220.6ft-lb
Second run - 196.1bhp 230.8ft-lb

Fairly happy with that, the next two runs dropped slightly and he said i could do with a bigger intercooler to keep the bhp more constant.
Been looking at a few but not sure what brands to look for, I dont really want to spend £400+ on a forge one, but theres a Direnza one for £199, does anyone know if they are any good? Or which ones would people recommend?
Also been looking at de-cat pipes for it, thinking of either a Miltek or Evolve one, again can anyone recommend which of these would be best?
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