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Hmm heat like what a TVS produces? The below graph was prepared by Harrop's and for the Yanks that 197.5 works out to 387 degrees. A TVS kit is $3300 US and yes it carries a warranty. You want to spend your money on it, no problem. The Cobalt M62 is an older generation Eaton and majority you find are going to be used although there were some Dealer Stock units that sold a couple months ago for around $900 US. I recently bought a spare for $250 that had 80k miles on it but sold it as I found another spare with only 30k miles for $250 US, I will be able to sell the pulley case gearbox, the bpv actuator and the throttle body to the Cobalt guys for a couple of hundred dollars.

So Bixby or Scott or whatever you name is, spend your money the way you want and let others decide how much money they want to spend on a car more than 14 years old . . . .


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My engine did not blow, sorry.
well damn all I did was answer a guys question as to why most tuners don’t like the m62 . Heat and lack of support. I never brought up cost because the tuner wouldn’t care about what you paid for your stuff plus what tuner wants to work with outdated parts . I would think most tuners would want to get the most out of the cars they have there name tided too . Both in Performance and longevity . Now if a car owner is willing to lose a bit of performance in the name of budget that’s fully understandable. To claim it just as good or to say it’s just about the same isn’t true.
 

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well damn all I did was answer a guys question as to why most tuners don’t like the m62 . Heat and lack of support. I never brought up cost because the tuner wouldn’t care about what you paid for your stuff plus what tuner wants to work with outdated parts . I would think most tuners would want to get the most out of the cars they have there name tided too . Both in Performance and longevity . Now if a car owner is willing to lose a bit of performance in the name of budget that’s fully understandable. To claim it just as good or to say it’s just about the same isn’t true.
Yep its Scott.
 

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My engine did not blow, sorry.
100% the sleeve cracked and the head gasket went
it's a shit sleeve job. You know it, and the world knows it

why have the greeks been posting endlessly on instagram about their """""FIXES""""" roflmao
hell, if you morons were smart enough to actually look at all my pictures I showed you how to do it correctly but you are all so fucking arrogant that you think you know better.

These same morons trying it are the same ones that said they didn't need sleeved back in 06 when I did it the 1st time. Hell dumper even was just a couple yrs ago saying you could go out to 81mm without even sleeving it. Until Alejandro who designed the engine told him he was crazy....... these are the buffoons you listen to.....

step back and take a breath, you might actually learn something here if you can get over your thin skin.
You ban everyone who has a different opinion and then say to everyone you are here to help them. Help them blow their motors?

Biden would be proud of your nonsense
 

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100% the sleeve cracked and the head gasket went
it's a shit sleeve job. You know it, and the world knows it

why have the greeks been posting endlessly on instagram about their """""FIXES""""" roflmao
hell, if you morons were smart enough to actually look at all my pictures I showed you how to do it correctly but you are all so fucking arrogant that you think you know better.

These same morons trying it are the same ones that said they didn't need sleeved back in 06 when I did it the 1st time. Hell dumper even was just a couple yrs ago saying you could go out to 81mm without even sleeving it. Until Alejandro who designed the engine told him he was crazy....... these are the buffoons you listen to.....

step back and take a breath, you might actually learn something here if you can get over your thin skin.
You ban everyone who has a different opinion and then say to everyone you are here to help them. Help them blow their motors?

Biden would be proud of your nonsense
You are a troll that offers nothing of use. One of your biggest Fanbois over here got tired of your antics and had somebody else do his tune. Go take your meds.
 

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You are a troll that offers nothing of use. One of your biggest Fanbois over here got tired of your antics and had somebody else do his tune. Go take your meds.
it's so entertaining to watch you fools destroy your engines while talking shit endlessly on me.......
 

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it's funny you talk about meds.........did you get into your son's supply?
 

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I have a friend that is a mechanic in France. He asked me if I could find him a decent low priced Cobalt M62 and I found one yesterday for $85 US. I will be sending that over to him in the next couple of days. For the "over the pond" group I know a Devils fan in Manchester that has three Cobalt M62s he is making kits up for and then a guy in Pittsburgh USA that specializes in rebuilding them. He has shipped a few for Opel Speedsters but of late has been shipping either good used or his rebuilt units over the pond. Anybody interested, send me a PM I can get you more information. Currently I am fabricating a kit for a MP62 that a friend asked me to get involved in. These units were used on the Lotus Elise but they are 4th Generation Eatons not 5th like the Cobalts. He bought it from a guy that had it laying around for years. It was never run on a car and is like brand new.

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Any thread that wakes up Jan just resorts to this sort of posting from him


I'm actually pleased to see 'cheap' progress on R53's now, the cars are mostly worth the square root of sod all so seeing M62s being fitted for peanuts for a reasonable power hike is fitting with where most of the cars are in their life cycle. Big money builds still happen which is fine, but Jan can't differentiate between people modding with a budget in mind and pseudo race car builds
 

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You want big horsepower with the Tritec you need a BVH and a larger supercharger or you go turbo on the stock head but both are good chunks of money. You want some low end torque on a budget, get a used Cobalt M62. Put in at least 380 injectors (in the States we can find Bosch 550s for approximately $160) and tune from the guy in Romania. Want a little more, find a used water/meth kit (I made my own for less than $350 US). Forget the pulley, larger intercooler/fmic and cold air intake. How much you drive around on the street at 6-7000 rpms for any duration?
 

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Any thread that wakes up Jan just resorts to this sort of posting from him


I'm actually pleased to see 'cheap' progress on R53's now, the cars are mostly worth the square root of sod all so seeing M62s being fitted for peanuts for a reasonable power hike is fitting with where most of the cars are in their life cycle. Big money builds still happen which is fine, but Jan can't differentiate between people modding with a budget in mind and pseudo race car builds
I don't think Jan cares diddly about forums anymore. The only reason he posted here was because his Fanboi Bixby/Scott told him.
 

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actually I came here to dispel your nonsense since you ban anyone on any forum that shows facts against BS. You can't even read a dyno and figure out the real hp that it made, let alone put together factual data. That offer still stands on the engine building contest....... Weird how you talk so much trash yet won't step up to the plate, but seeing how your "BIG BORE" that you talked up endlessly on your little forum didn't even last 2 mo and the greeks have the same issues across the pond with that design. Fun times isn't it?
 

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Sorry but I have assumed that most that still visit forums have enough sense to know that; 1.) The M62s are as old as many R53s that means they have no warranty, 2.) That if you can buy one for $250 you are not going to get a whole lot of support from anybody, and, 3.) That a supercharger you can buy for $250 is probably not as good as one that costs $3300 or more? Correct?

Only God knows how much more business Revolution Mini Works that later became Revolution Motor Works would have had over the years if the proprietor was not such an asshole, do Brits say arsehole? I am sure he will post some stupid shit about my intelligence but I have pushed the "ignore" button so I do get to see the rantings of a one time important individual in the MINI market that has been rendered almost irrelevant by the passage of time.
 

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Haha yeah we use arsehole,. and worse.
I have to say, if I was in that market, I wouldnt be spend it with Jan and Im not the only one, so yeah lots of lost revenue.
 

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Is this shit still going on, none of us give a toss any more. M62 or TVS, fuck sake theres a bit more going in life than what charger to fit to a fucking mini.

I stopped giving enough of a toss I sold my Cooper S engine and put a Cooper NA engine back in. If I wanted decent power I'd buy a M140i or similar and take it to Evolve.
 

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I'm a dumb bastard so none of this means shit,

1.) I figured out how to mount a rebuilt Cobalt SS/Saturn Redline M62, which I bought for $300 US from a guy in Pittsburgh, The M45 pulley gear case bolts to the M62 case without any modifications.

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2.) I modified the existing black intake duct so it would fit on the M62.

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3.) Played around with the belt tensioner and ended up shortening the tensioner spring to provide approximately 10% more tension on the belt. I made up a spacer so that the overall dimension was the same.

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4.) Did logging with two different size pulleys; 65,5 (stock S) and 61. I was pushing 1.24 bars of boost through my ported/intermediate valve head with the 61 and below are some IATs.

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5.) Without an electric water pump, I can make a kit up for less than 300 GBP.

It might not be the prettiest damn thing and drove it over 24000 km with not one problem. But I am just a dumb bastard so what can somebody with brains be able to do?
 

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I'm a dumb bastard so none of this means shit,

1.) I figured out how to mount a rebuilt Cobalt SS/Saturn Redline M62, which I bought for $300 US from a guy in Pittsburgh, The M45 pulley gear case bolts to the M62 case without any modifications.

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2.) I modified the existing black intake duct so it would fit on the M62.

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3.) Played around with the belt tensioner and ended up shortening the tensioner spring to provide approximately 10% more tension on the belt. I made up a spacer so that the overall dimension was the same.

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4.) Did logging with two different size pulleys; 65,5 (stock S) and 61. I was pushing 1.24 bars of boost through my ported/intermediate valve head with the 61 and below are some IATs.

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5.) Without an electric water pump, I can make a kit up for less than 300 GBP.

It might not be the prettiest damn thing and drove it over 24000 km with not one problem. But I am just a dumb bastard so what can somebody with brains be able to do?
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