[GC1980]

Not going so well this afternoon. Car just died in traffic and took ages for it to crank and start before afrs going 14,15,1617,18,19,20 and I shut it off again.

Waiting to get the ECU lead and then I'll plug it in and see what it says. But no two ways about it I'll have to send it to SCS asap. Can't be dealing with this any more.

Sorry I didn't respond to the above KNT I thought I had done. But yes the mechanics of the car are fine, it's all gone south since the SCS has been on.

 

[George1]

That does not look fun. Hopefully SCS will have some answers

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[GC1980]

That does not look fun. Hopefully SCS will have some answers

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I was wondering because I have the open itg airfilter and with the ambient temp at 28 degrees if it was just sucking up too much hot air and it didn't like it? Was running quite well prior to the standstill traffic.

 

[George1]

It would be nice if that was the answer but from your previous posts it sounds like there's more to it than that. Your air filter placement isn't the best for standstill traffic but the ECU knows the intake air temps and should be able to compensate. At least it's something you can try to replicate when you talk to SCS.

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[GC1980]

Ive just spoken with mattew at SCS. He was happy to take the car in, but also agreed to terms of a refund. Im going to do a refund and revert back to the stock ECU. I just need to get myself an airfilter to go over the maf sensor. Bit of a bummer that i sold off the old RPM velocity stack for it to mount to, but ill fabricate something up.

Obviously i now need to get the car mapped. So if people have suggestions then hit me up.

 

[CarsOrBikes]

surely bailing on them looking at it leaves it open as to whether they'd have ever resolved it? Maybe if they did look and still couldn't sort it out, then refunding it would be a more progressive solution or resolution, having exhausted the avenue? It'd only help them develop something further so would expect they'd want to get involved \O/ Still, if they agreed a refund it's more than some would I'm sure.

takes me back to Link options, or at least curiosity,

glad I'm limiting my 56 play to cams and gearing primarily, less of a headache perhaps, I'd soon get bored chasing what you have I think,

 

[Fro-dizzle]

Absolutely gutted for you, really hope you manage to get it sorted soon and can actually enjoy it without having that niggle in your mind that your next issues is only round the corner.

 

[GC1980]

surely bailing on them looking at it leaves it open as to whether they'd have ever resolved it? Maybe if they did look and still couldn't sort it out, then refunding it would be a more progressive solution or resolution, having exhausted the avenue? It'd only help them develop something further so would expect they'd want to get involved \O/ Still, if they agreed a refund it's more than some would I'm sure.

takes me back to Link options, or at least curiosity,

glad I'm limiting my 56 play to cams and gearing primarily, less of a headache perhaps, I'd soon get bored chasing what you have I think,

I will agree with you on that it is unfinished business and allowing them to study could have produced a result knowing what the issue(s) were but it comes at a financial cost this far down the road I'm not willing to fork out on. The drive could result in a breakdown again (which the terms of collection mean the same issue means I pay for recovery) so it means trailering it to them at probably £250 and likely back. They won't pay those costs. Then I've just spent £126 on the lead which wasn't included despite them saying it was to be able to read the ECU. So I'm £600+ and a weeks Uber trips to work and back and no guarantee its going to be resolved. Just too much money.

I'll put it back to stock, pray to the gods that all issues disappear and work out who to take it to to map the stock ECU in due course. Maybe Nick K will be a gent and respond to me.

 

[Alski]

Odd as they advertise and sell the kit for the n14 mini
its not as if you invented some Frankenstein application

obliviously if they take a car in and find hardware issues it’s at your expense, but where is their market for this product if not for cars like yours ?

 

[knt]

Don't lose hope with the SCS Delta as it can be done if it's done proper

R56 MINI RACE CAR: FROM ROAD TO RACE - Fast Car

just shy of 300bhp with a hybrid turbo.

 

[GC1980]

Don't lose hope with the SCS Delta as it can be done if it's done proper

R56 MINI RACE CAR: FROM ROAD TO RACE - Fast Car

just shy of 300bhp with a hybrid turbo.

I think there comes a point when it's not necessarily giving up, it's taking all the information and experiences of what happened and just saying there is a better way.

For me the crucial thing is SCS were unable to even come up with any suggestions as to why the fuel pump for a kick off was squeaky and noisy. It is a real buzz kill that thing making a racket.

Then on top of the two map days, and then back for more without much hope of fixing it, and it being my daily car I don't have an unlimited budget or time frame in which to prove the SCS works. I don't doubt it can, but I'm just not prepared to flog this dead horse any more. Full refund on the way, I'll pick up the pieces get back to a reliable driver on my stage 3 stock ECU for now and regroup.

 

[GC1980]

Don't lose hope with the SCS Delta as it can be done if it's done proper

R56 MINI RACE CAR: FROM ROAD TO RACE - Fast Car

just shy of 300bhp with a hybrid turbo.

I also messaged those guys on the 21st March via Instagram and didn't hear back either. I think I've found that pattern quite a few times now. People just don't want to earn or work it seems.

 

[Alski]

I feel your pain when your car is a daily driver you just want in and out, I was lucky with 1320 back in 2008 they were not everyon‘s go to tuners then, even so I placed it with them on a holiday and Ben “ big-show” was my proxy for the tune and dyno updates.
new BV head, cam, injectors and map all original ecu r53 stuff I know, but on the day allowed easy 100hp over stock.

So this might be a possible pathway for you further down the line to achieve your goals,
again working on a 3year old “fresh“ one owner car is a different kettle of fish to begin with so I’m really comparing apples with pineapples but hopefully you get my drift.

 

[GC1980]

I feel your pain when your car is a daily driver you just want in and out, I was lucky with 1320 back in 2008 they were not everyon‘s go to tuners then, even so I placed it with them on a holiday and Ben “ big-show” was my proxy for the tune and dyno updates.
new BV head, cam, injectors and map all original ecu r53 stuff I know, but on the day allowed easy 100hp over stock.

So this might be a possible pathway for you further down the line to achieve your goals,
again working on a 3year old “fresh“ one owner car is a different kettle of fish to begin with so I’m really comparing apples with pineapples but hopefully you get my drift.

I may still email them. Only last time they came back to me 5.5 weeks late. Maybe they'll be a touch quicker this time around.

I do indeed get your drift. Thanks for the input.

 

[knt]

I think there comes a point when it's not necessarily giving up, it's taking all the information and experiences of what happened and just saying there is a better way.

For me the crucial thing is SCS were unable to even come up with any suggestions as to why the fuel pump for a kick off was squeaky and noisy. It is a real buzz kill that thing making a racket.

Then on top of the two map days, and then back for more without much hope of fixing it, and it being my daily car I don't have an unlimited budget or time frame in which to prove the SCS works. I don't doubt it can, but I'm just not prepared to flog this dead horse any more. Full refund on the way, I'll pick up the pieces get back to a reliable driver on my stage 3 stock ECU for now and regroup.

I also messaged those guys on the 21st March via Instagram and didn't hear back either. I think I've found that pattern quite a few times now. People just don't want to earn or work it seems.

Yeah, you're right.

At least, SCS are willing to offer a full refund. Looks like the MINI GDi6 ECU needs a lot more R&D and shouldn't have been marketed as a direct replacement engine management as is.

Everyone needs to do what they think will work the best in terms of cost-effective vs performance as not many of us can afford to spend unlimited time and money.

What/who's next to map the big turbo?

 

[GC1980]

Yeah, you're right.

At least, SCS are willing to offer a full refund. Looks like the MINI GDi6 ECU needs a lot more R&D and shouldn't have been marketed as a direct replacement engine management as is.

Everyone needs to do what they think will work the best in terms of cost-effective vs performance as not many of us can afford to spend unlimited time and money.

What/who's next to map the big turbo?

Undecided right now on where to go. I was tipped off by a friend, a guy who used to work at Omex for their ECUs he's set up himself and has his own Dyno and workshop. Going to speak to him tomorrow and see what he thinks. But really it needs to be seen by someone who's mapped a similar engine/turbo setup with demonstrable skills.

Open to suggestions...AGAIN.

 

[oldbrokenwind]

I'm too lazy to go back and read this entire thread again, but are you sure the current tune allows for the MAF sensor? I've read that the MAF isn't normally installed on European versions, but here you are.

Then there's RPM Power --- I recently visited RPM in Vancouver and he's (Lorenzo) running a big turbo with a stand-alone (forget whose). He's pushing just under 600HP! He's not likely to do just a tune for you, he wants to sell the entire package, then tune it. However, you might look around for another RPM facility closer to you, they might work together and get you a tune.

I wouldn't give up on Nick either --- nothing but praise for his stage 4 Garrett tune on OEM ECU.

Best of luck ---

 

[GC1980]

I'm too lazy to go back and read this entire thread again, but are you sure the current tune allows for the MAF sensor? I've read that the MAF isn't normally installed on European versions, but here you are.

Then there's RPM Power --- I recently visited RPM in Vancouver and he's (Lorenzo) running a big turbo with a stand-alone (forget whose). He's pushing just under 600HP! He's not likely to do just a tune for you, he wants to sell the entire package, then tune it. However, you might look around for another RPM facility closer to you, they might work together and get you a tune.

I wouldn't give up on Nick either --- nothing but praise for his stage 4 Garrett tune on OEM ECU.

Best of luck ---

Hey Walt, good to hear from you.

Yes on European JCWs they ran a MAF as far as I know. It was the Cooper S that didn't which is why most big turbo cars in the UK started life as a cooper s.

I used to have a lot of time for Lorenzo, he was a nice guy, generous with his time for questions etc. Spent probably around $1500 with the guy for his stage 3 map, the Powergate 3 module to load the maps on etc and when discussing going to a big turbo he said he'd hook me up with an RPM tune.

That was until the time I was about to send him money for a map he backed out citing the owner of RPM Portugal won't allow him, and said only if I buy I think it was either his billet inlet or an r400 kit he would do the map. I'm sorry but that's just BS behaviour.

And in terms of other RPM dealers I tried that route, they all feed info back to the mother shop and when they found out it was for me they said no, again after saying yes Initially. I find that mentality very childish.
When you get so caught up in the perception of how great you are you forget the people that bought into you in the first place. Just my opinion.

I'm still holding out hope on Nick K. But let's see what happens. For now the car is stable enough on the stage 3 map for daily driving but I'll try and find a solution soon.

 

[GC1980]

No news on the map, but the last two weeks I've been nursing the car with two broken exhaust hangers on the car.

So nipped back to Deutschtech for a free repair on that and to reset things, but at the same time decided I should have gone with the downswept pipes.

So it's now 3.5" tips, marginally smaller than the 4" straight pipes I had on before. Think the tone is slightly quieter now. Still like gunshots on this map but slightly quieter.

One thing I didn't realize was just how much quieter the car is on the motorway on a stock ECU. I'm not sure how to explain that and why it would have been noisier but it's less boomy on the motorway at constant speeds.

 

[Alski]

Be good to know how those tips impact DB meters @ Bedford and other tracks