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I can't recall who I was chatting to the other day but he was saying SCS delta plus tune is around £2400. Just can't justify that sort of cost really.

I'll figure something out but think that brand of standalone is a lot more than say Link from what I gather.
Gone back to view the Petrol Ped video on Lohen's 400BHP big turbo build and the tech guy said the MINI is running a standalone LINK 4+ ECU.

Hope you get it all sorted out soon and see what results you get (y).

Nice car and just noticed the number plate (y) .
 

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I'm down south now and at 1320 tomorrow so will ask about the Link potential, I did ask about the SCS stuff last time as one was for sale used which I was tempted with, iirc they said they ran it in early days on old red and it wasn't all that great, certainly compared to what they have now, and also stuff about it limiting function, so imo a Link or ECU Master might be the way to go assuming it works with the dash function etc. Even ECU Master classic might be viable, it's certainly cheaper but tbh don't know much about all that, I have one and G4+ but they're PnP for 53's, if I thought they'd be an option on the 56 I'd try one myself I think
 
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I'm down south now and at 1320 tomorrow so will ask about the Link potential, I did ask about the SCS stuff last time as one was for sale used which I was tempted with, iirc they said they ran it in early days on old red and it wasn't all that great, certainly compared to what they have now, and also stuff about it limiting function, so imo a Link or ECU Master might be the way to go assuming it works with the dash function etc. Even ECU Master classic might be viable, it's certainly cheaper but tbh don't know much about all that, I have one and G4+ but they're PnP for 53's, if I thought they'd be an option on the 56 I'd try one myself I think
Thanks for the feedback. I finally got a message back from BHP. They're pushing the SCS Delta. £2100. Not a chance. I've had some conversations with A Reeve Motorsport and have now booked the car in for mapping with them. They run the mini challenge series, do fabrication work, geo setups and custom mapping so feel confident they're going to be up to the job. They mapped a lohen 330 specced turbo technics on a stock jcw manifold (with cams) and made 350bhp which was capped.

Booked in for the 21st March.
 

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I'm looking forward to seeing what results you get. It's been a bit of a journey!

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Yeah me too! Two years + years in the making. Just changed the lamda sensor too after that died the other day. Not much left that's original now!

I'd like to remain conservative on the numbers and anything else a bonus. 350bhp and something over 425nm and I'll be very happy. The 412nm I got on the manic map before it blew was impressive in itself.

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That looks like it's been running a little bit on the rich side...

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Yeah the RPM map which they said would run that Garrett until I got a proper big turbo tune doesn't run it that well. Just replaced that lambda with a new Bosch item and again the afrs are up and down all over the place. Can't wait to get it properly mapped now.
 

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Gone back to view the Petrol Ped video on Lohen's 400BHP big turbo build and the tech guy said the MINI is running a standalone LINK 4+ ECU.

Hope you get it all sorted out soon and see what results you get (y).

Nice car and just noticed the number plate (y) .
That car never ran 400bhp and Petrol Ped wouldn't know what 400bhp felt like if he got run over by it, never mind having the balls to send it.

I was sniffing around the Turbotechnics build while it was in development; they told me they were getting 360bhp and when I asked where they were getting the fuel to achieve that, they couldn't give me a straight answer. It's a really good turbo, but I'll believe Lohen's claims when one of their cars makes it on another Dyno.

With Nick's limited availability I think going with Reeve is best bet.
 

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That car never ran 400bhp and Petrol Ped wouldn't know what 400bhp felt like if he got run over by it, never mind having the balls to send it.

I was sniffing around the Turbotechnics build while it was in development; they told me they were getting 360bhp and when I asked where they were getting the fuel to achieve that, they couldn't give me a straight answer. It's a really good turbo, but I'll believe Lohen's claims when one of their cars makes it on another Dyno.

With Nick's limited availability I think going with Reeve is best bet.
Yeah I've seen that video a few times too. Hard to guage anything power wise and tbh unless you see Dyno runs and graphs (still can be manipulated I guess) then I'll just take it with a pinch of salt

The turbo technics I believe is what's used by RPM for their R300 turbo, but with Spectrum Motorsport custom wheels. Meant to make 350whp.
 

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I've just recently sold my Recaro Speed seats, so did the right thing and upgraded with these Corbeau Pro Series in carbon/Kevlar. I bought these from Joe @projectgtx and I'm so pleased to have gotten these they make all the difference.

Jason was a total legend as always and sorted me out with the installation, doing a cracking job - neat and tidy! All in all, another great day out. Long drive up and back and some good banter and chat.

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Went back to Deutschtech yesterday to upgrade the GMC Italy downpipe with a custom made 3" item to match the cat back system they built a few weeks back.

Really impressed with it. Because my Aircon pipes had snapped against the downpipe we decided to just sack it off completely and put on a smaller stretch belt and remove the AC pump completely which gave us a lot more wiggle room.

V band fittings in 2 parts on the downpipe means I can pull the downpipe, turbo and manifold if needs be with the front end still on.

Saw some of the worst bit of welding I've ever seen hidden under heat wrap when the guys who initially put the big turbo kit on mated it to my jcw exhaust. John at Deutschtec was as surprised as I was when we saw it. Total hack job and with holes in it.

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If anyone is after a custom turbo back exhaust, definitely give John at Deutschtech a call.

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I feel like I'm going a bit stir crazy ATM with getting this car mapped. It was all set in stone but after hearing some not so good stories of blown engines, poor customer service I've refrained from going ahead and am looking for alternatives.

I've DM'd Nick K directly to see if he can help me out, but I don't hold much luck because a) he works for Peron and is mega busy, and Peron wouldn't help me b) I'm just not sure he will be interested but let's see.

In the mean time I am stumped as to where to take it. I realize posting this will more than likely leave me no clearer on the topic as everyone plays favourites or has opinions which can vary. But I'm after solid evidence of big turbo minis, built and tuned and by whom so I can get in touch.

Do I even need an N14 specialist or can another tuner with custom mapping / custom builds help?

I just want to drive the car now without fear of hurting the engine or just the pain in the arse it can be with fluctuating AFRs.

Thanks.
 

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Any decent tuner will use the same method for tuning. They just need to be sympathetic with the torque curve so that your unsupported cylinder liners don't get any damage. N14 experience isn't really essential but they would need to be aware of the limitations of the hardware. Graham from Celtic Tuning is quite good if you can get him to do a custom map for you.

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I have no idea if they have done any Mini's but Chris at EFI parts has a very good rep on a few forums ive been on for many years and does have a turbo Clio that runs huge power.

I've heard of these guys from some Clio owners running turbos. Having looked at their website they predominantly deal with standalone ECU's. Not something I have but depending on costs if you can get one for under a grand I might look into that. £600 for a days Dyno tuning isn't bad.
 

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It's a bit concerning that support has dried up for the R56.

Millsy ran a Link that was set-up to run a second set of injectors and secondary fuel system. I can only imagine how much this cost to purchase and tune all-in.

It was clever stuff, big power, but ultimately couldn't maintain reliability and listening to that external pump in cabin was like having tinitus.
 

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It's a bit concerning that support has dried up for the R56.

Millsy ran a Link that was set-up to run a second set of injectors and secondary fuel system. I can only imagine how much this cost to purchase and tune all-in.

It was clever stuff, big power, but ultimately couldn't maintain reliability and listening to that external pump in cabin was like having tinitus.
Tell me about it, its quite frustrating. Another one of those "if id known it would be this much trouble" i wouldn't have bothered with a big turbo setup. Anyway im here now and getting frustrated! Nick K hasnt replied as have many other tuners which is just shit really. people shouldn't be in business if they cant do the basics like reply.
 
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